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we are

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the boat brotherhood one team one family

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we are a diverse team as falcons

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in our team huddle the goal is to score

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but we will serve to reach beyond the

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playing field

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to build communities and our country to

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support all

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backgrounds black brown and white

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to pursue greater opportunities when it

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comes to education

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justice health care and peace so we may

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all win in life

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our mission extends beyond winning our

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mission

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is to stand against racism to promote

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diversity

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and inclusion our mission is to

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demonstrate

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and fight for respect and human dignity

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we aim to tell our country and the world

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that black lives matter

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and to cure the disease of

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discrimination and

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racism in our country black lives have

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not been

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and are not treated as equal in our

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society

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racial profiling jim crow mass

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incarceration

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redlining police brutality from the bolt

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brotherhood

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enough is enough this is not a political

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choice

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of marxism or capitalism this is the

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basic regard

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and respect for human life and dignity

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this is why black lives matter if the

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intent of our country is justice and

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liberty for all we must first

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acknowledge

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that black lives matter we must stand

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in unity for racism to

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end we stand in unity to be part of the

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solution

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it's not enough for us to be not racist

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it's time to be anti-racist it's time

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to be anti-racist it's time to be

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anti-racist

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it's time for me to recognize my bias

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it's time to use my voice my talent

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my platform to stand against unjust

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police brutality

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and institutional discrimination take

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action

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take responsibility and take a stance

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listen to understand listen with an open

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heart

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listen to our experiences and empathize

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with the pain that racism causes so many

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educate yourself on the role that race

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plays in our history

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we will fight for fair treatment justice

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and equality of black americans brown

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americans

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football field

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because black lives matter because black

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lives

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time to open our eyes

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and serve for justice

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it's time to make our country and our

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world a better place

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it's bigger than football it's bigger

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than football it's bigger

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than football there's no neutral nor in

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when it comes to racism you have to take

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a stance

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because the bolt brotherhood believes

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black lives matter

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something else that my friend from west

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point told me that i'll never forget

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is that he was talking about how they

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trained to absolutely be colorblind

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and that one of the trick questions

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that your commander may ask is

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plebe johnson how many black

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are there how many blacks are in your

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and the answer is sir i don't know sir

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so isn't that great yeah

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i'm just curious whether there was also

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something like that going on at air

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force as far as being

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bred into you that you're we're to be

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colorblind we're all the same we're all

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i think it's more something that my

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we never thought about it maybe when we

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start talking about this issue i'll tell

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uh the reaction that of a conversation

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that i had with two young men

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who are juniors in high school now one's

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hispanic and one's chinese

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and they've they were brought up the

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same way i i was you just don't think

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and i don't remember race ever being an

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issue i mean

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the black cadets that were there were

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yeah well it's it was that story that he

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told me that that caused me to

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really get interested in you first

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telling me about this black lives matter

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video because when i watched it i'm just

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based on what he had told me about west

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point and which i assumed

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about being

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colorblind and that video is the

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opposite of being colorblind it's

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telling us that we all need to pay

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attention to our race if you're white

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you better recognize that you've got

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special privileges because of the color

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of your skin

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so you're special and unique and better

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acknowledge

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all of the benefits you got from being

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white no matter how you were raised

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where you were raised doesn't matter of

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course it's just all about

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one thing and that's the color of your

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skin and then

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if you're a black person well you've

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been raised in a discrim

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a country that discriminates against you

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and inherently

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simply because of the color of your skin

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black lives are not treated as equal

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in our society period

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that's the statement directly from the

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video now you know why we've been

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fighting it so hard

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yeah so i want to just kind of get

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a flavor i mean i i get worked up about

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the video but you

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as a graduate and a lieutenant retired

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lieutenant general

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help us feel what you feel how visceral

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it is for you

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you know as to being a graduate and

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being so involved in the academy and

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seeing all the great men and women who

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have graduated from there

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um help us just get into your your mind

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in your heart as far as how much this

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video bothers you

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before i do that jim i just need to have

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one quick disclaimer

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because we're going to go down a road

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here that

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is seemingly throwing my my academy and

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my

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air force under the bus and and some of

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the leaders

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and these are guys that i love get

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people that we've flown with

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i mean this group has grown from a

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handful initially to 20 we could be 2

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000. i think we all

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feel the same way there's just a blind

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or maybe this the way we've

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kind of convinced ourselves it's this

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ideology

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that has just slowly crept into the

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and it's now taking up residence at our

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service academies

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so how do we feel about it i mean i get

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a little thing every day

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that says from the gazette and has some

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headlines

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and the headline was air force football

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takes firm social stance in support of

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black lives matter

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and i go this can't be this can't be

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true and

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direct you in the article to the

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facebook page

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reaction was exactly exactly the same as

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yours

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and i looked at well wait a minute i

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mean the military is supposed to stay

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apolitical

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that was number one thought i had and

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number two

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thought i had was

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why in the world are we associating

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ourselves

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with a violent marxist organization

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and so i wrote the superintendent a

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letter uh well i let it i let it day go

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i said there's there has to be a

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retraction of sorts

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there wasn't so i wrote a letter to the

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superintendent

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who worked for me when i was here

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commander europe he was

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a colonel uh thought kind of

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owed me a little bit because i put him

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in this one star billet that made him a

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general officer

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it doesn't really matter but uh so i

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wrote him i said jay

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if you produced a video that said our

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institution and our football team has

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stood strong against racism from

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the beginning of our institution and we

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want to raise the bar even higher

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you'd have 50 000 plus graduates every

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single one of us

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saying spot on but when you essentially

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like it or not intentional or not um

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associate our alma mater

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with an organization like black lives

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matter it's going to be divisive

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um so i think and so so this group kind

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unbeknownst to me other people were

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telling them the same thing

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and what's the remind me the name of the

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superintendent

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at the time it was lieutenant general j

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jay silveria and he uh

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recently he just left a few months ago

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right september 23rd

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and he's now where uh

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texas a m right and is he

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the head of the school is he the

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chancellor or whatever they call it

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there no he's

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ahead of one of the departments i've

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um and do you know

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what whether he was even aware of the

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video before

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you guys saw it it's a great question

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nobody's ever

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really been able to nail it down when i

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saw the video and wrote that letter the

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next thing i did was

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pick up the phone and call a very good

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mentor of mine

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very dear friend class of 68

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and he's on the air force athletic

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air force academy athletic corporation

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the afaq

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and so they controlled the purse strings

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for the coaches

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and so i said charlie did did you see

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that video and he said yeah i saw that

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video and the second i did i picked up

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the phone and called

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nate pine the athletic director and

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expressed my dissatisfaction

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so i said wow i mean it's just

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unbelievable and i i had

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sent him the letter i had sent to jay

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silvera and you know

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just like all of us were shaking our

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heads well there's enough people that

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were complaining to the president of the

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association of graduates who was a

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former superintendent

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and he said well you know let me try to

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see if i can broker a deal here

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so the very first thing we did was about

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that had we had a zoom meeting with

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coach calhoun

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and went around the room and everybody

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had their piece to say and then

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my pilot training roommate finally came

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up on the net

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and uh said uh coach you know we've

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talked a lot about

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how it's so upsetting to all of us the

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question is what are we going to do

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about it

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and went on to say i think at the very

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bare minimum we need to take it down and

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maybe have some explanation

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so i jumped in there at that time and

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said i took the liberty

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because i don't even know how to be on

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this video but i went out with an email

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and i pulsed everybody coach

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everybody here is unanimous in what

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my former roommate says and so he said

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well what if i told you that

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any names uh i believe i don't know for

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sure a black

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graduate that's a coach at university of

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oklahoma

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or one of i think it was a college in

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oklahoma that

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he called me up and said that's the best

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video i've ever seen produced

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it takes a firm social stance

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and i said to him i said well coach

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you got a different opinion from eight

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of us here

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to us it feels like you're trying to

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fight racism by being racist

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that video to me is the very definition

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of racist and so

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uh you know he kind of put his head down

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for a second and said well

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you know what if i did take it down then

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the media outlets got a hold of it and

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you i mean this guy is very motivational

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and he gave a very great talk about

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you know how we're responsible at the

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air force academy for producing

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officers not just football players not

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just

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people who come here to play sports you

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know we're about building character

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we're the future of the air force i said

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coach you just said

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what you should say to the media outlet

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should anybody raise an issue

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reaction to the video from just taking

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it down given all the resistance

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that well apparently there needs to be a

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teaching moment

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because the people who would object to

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taking it down and believe it or not jim

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it's not

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just along racial lines it's probably

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more along political persuasion lines

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yeah um so a couple questions about that

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meeting

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whose idea the video was to begin with

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um i i had a little bit of an idea when

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the superintendent responded my email he

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said

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uh hey general bishop let me let me show

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you from a different perspective

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what what went on you know we've got

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this

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movement these guys took a cue from

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the chief of staff for the air force and

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the

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force and trying to make a statement

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that

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you know we're doing everything we can

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to be an integrated institution

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something like that

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so i went back to him two or three times

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and i could tell i wasn't getting

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anywhere with the emails and i think

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that this guy's

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over his head was just dealing with

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coveted the

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classes uh coming in and i said i'm just

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gonna leave it drop

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let it drop and that's where i had until

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this this video came up um

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i'm not sure i answered your first

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question there i got off on the tangent

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telling you yeah well

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um a couple follow-up questions first of

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all as you sit here today

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do you know whose idea it was to produce

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this thing to begin with it was either

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football

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players or the coaches the

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superintendent's words were

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those young men okay and in the video

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um it's the head coach calhoun and then

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all the other guys are assistant coaches

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or some of them players

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no they're as far as we as far as we

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know we went on the gazette and it looks

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like they're all

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uh all coaches no players

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[Music]

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so it it you believe that it was

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basically calhoun's

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idea i don't i believe it was probably

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one of the

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the uh younger assistant coaches or a

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player potentially and whether or not

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they had any

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you know ill intent in putting the team

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up to that

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nobody knows in fact the four star that

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was brought in to

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mediate this he and i had that very

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discussion we

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want to say and think that it was

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you know there was no intent in fact the

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reason i don't think it's coach calhoun

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is because two gentlemen who were part

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of the group

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initially they're members of the air

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force

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foundation and that's an organization

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that raises money

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and they've both withdrawn from the

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group now

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given the avenue that we're going down

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because they know

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we all know that unfortunately

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the byproduct of these efforts have

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taken this

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public are going to be people walking

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away from support of the academy

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programs that's why we kept it so

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secret and didn't speak you guys just

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wanted it taken down

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and thought that that would not be it's

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too heavy of a lift once people kind of

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realized

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what was wrong with the video you know

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they got caught up in the moment

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we've seen similar videos that the nba

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was putting out during their time in the

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bubble

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with all their black lives matter stuff

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they were doing

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very similar videos so you know it's a

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football team and they're seeing other

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sports teams doing it so they're

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thinking that they're going to do it

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the big deal teams have done it but as

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we've all noted that

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none are as offensive as the one that

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our own alma mater did

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and you know it just seemed too easy of

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a fix i mean we've all been on facebook

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and all you have to do is take your

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mouse and

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hide from timeline or delete click takes

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you know two or three seconds

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but what i think that you have learned

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through this process

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which has been an unsuccessful

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month many months long attempt to simply

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get this video taken down

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is that this is not a problem just among

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the coaches of the football team

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this goes all the way up to the absolute

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top

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of the air force because the

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superintendent is

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in on it he either knew about it or

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certainly had no problem

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with it and we could talk about him a

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little bit more there's reason to know

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that he's a

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a real kind of left thinker in that

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regard

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and then you guys filed an official

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complaint with the secretary of the air

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force

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and just i think it was last week your

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complaint was

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rejected and they determined

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that this didn't violate any

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uh military codes department of defense

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rules and regulations even ones that say

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that we are not to support any political

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cause

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uh political party advocate for any

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particular

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cause when it's very clear

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that's exactly what this video is doing

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but the secretary of the air force

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office has said there's nothing wrong

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with this video so

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well we think so i mean i tried to

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clarify that

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up front uh the week before we got the

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uh

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announcement because we have had a back

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channel with the secretary and

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we had indication to believe that she

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was

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wanting things to play out that she

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agreed with our position

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so i clarified the week before the

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determination was made

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will the secretary see this or do we

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need to make sure that

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you know she sees whatever way you

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decide and he says it will be routed

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through the second so you know i guess

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that's her stamp of approval on it

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um going back well so hold on general

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i just have to clarify something you're

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saying that you guys got some back

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channel communication

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from the uh secretary of the

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the air force we have a contact

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i don't want to give away too much here

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we have a contact that we have been

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communicating with that

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communicates with the second okay but

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but it's that same office

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that just rejected your complaints

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in writing and and went through every

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one of the possible code violations and

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ruled as to each one of them this did

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not violate

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that code so the inspector general that

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made that determination

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obviously had to have been done with the

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office uh ogc i think they call it

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office the general counsel

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that works for the secretary and what i

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was making sure is that whatever

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response we got back that would be a

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response

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that was from the secretary of that she

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had approved it somewhere along the line

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okay so your complaint was rejected do

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you think she was involved or not

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involved

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i i think based i have no reason to

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believe she was not to i was told that

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she would be

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um we've gone back and asked that

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question

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and i haven't received the response yet

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yeah

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and it was a very disappointing

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uh rejection of your complaint because

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it

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provided no reasoning

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no factual analysis it was just

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perfunctory

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it doesn't violate this it doesn't

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violate this it doesn't violate this

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without any explanation as to how do

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they came to the conclusion

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that this thing does not advocate for a

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cause when

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you know there's even stuff in there

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about health care for all

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and uh you know mass incarceration of

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blacks racial profiling jim crow laws

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police brutality redlining mass

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incarcerations

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racial profiling systemic racism you'll

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have

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nothing of all that all these untruths

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that we felt are being taught i mean

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these are academy coaches

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to the future officers of the united

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states part of the indoctrination

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yes so this indoctrination is being

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endorsed

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not just among football coaches not just

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among the the superintendent of the air

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force academy

578
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but at the highest echelons of the air

579
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force it appears to me

580
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you know it appears um you know we can

581
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only speculate

582
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but why would it take

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four retired air force lawyers two hours

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to tell us that that video violated the

585
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dod

586
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134410 and the afi 51508

587
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two hours and it takes the air force

588
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:53,039
two months to tell us it doesn't

589
00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:57,280
we felt oh you know after five six weeks

590
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we're being slow rolled until after the

591
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election who knows

592
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i mean especially i think the strongest

593
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part of that case

594
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and i've heard this from our mediator

595
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who was brokering talking to us

596
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talking to headquarters air force not on

597
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the secretary side but on the military

598
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side

599
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and i think we would have gotten a

600
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response more quickly from the ig from

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what

602
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i've been told if we hadn't supplemented

603
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:26,720
the ig complaint

604
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:28,480
when president trump came out with his

605
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executive orders against critical race

606
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theory

607
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:33,120
then it became a little bit more

608
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difficult

609
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:36,640
so yeah let's talk about critical race

610
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:38,840
theory for for a moment

611
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:41,679
um which some people kind of refer to as

612
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:42,720
the 1619

613
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,000
project and so on but uh

614
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:48,159
you know race is the center of

615
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everything in america

616
00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:52,080
you know where it comes from no i just

617
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learned this

618
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:55,280
this week from talking to dr scott that

619
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,440
they put race in between critical theory

620
00:23:01,510 --> 00:22:59,200
critical theory what was taught during

621
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:01,520
the marxist schools in frankfurt

622
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:03,840
yeah yeah you certainly see how they're

623
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:05,520
using

624
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:08,880
race as a way to defy to divide

625
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:10,880
you know marxism is all about the

626
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:13,440
classes right one class oppressing

627
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:15,760
another that's what gives you the basis

628
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,840
to overturn the whole thing is that you

629
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:19,679
have an oppressed class

630
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,400
so in america to say that blacks are the

631
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:24,480
oppressed class

632
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:28,159
which they certainly were many many many

633
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:29,600
many years ago

634
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:31,360
but they want to maintain that still

635
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:34,080
today they are the oppressed class

636
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:37,760
and that's what you get directly from

637
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:41,600
the video which is that black lives are

638
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:41,919
not

639
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:44,799
treated as equal in our society that

640
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,360
means they are an oppressed class

641
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:49,039
and if you have an oppressed class that

642
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:51,440
class should rise up and overthrow the

643
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:52,400
oppressor

644
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:53,679
it's all about the oppressed and the

645
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:55,600
oppressor so um

646
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:58,799
yeah you jogged my memory that that that

647
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:00,400
is the foundation of critical race

648
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:02,080
theory all comes from

649
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:05,279
marxism and and so on so trump to his

650
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:06,159
credit

651
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,440
issues that order shockingly critical

652
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:10,960
race theory apparently had been

653
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,679
being taught who who knew but that there

654
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:15,360
were federal agencies that were teaching

655
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:15,679
this

656
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:18,240
nonsense that we even needed such an

657
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,880
order

658
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:20,640
but it begs the question as you think

659
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:23,840
about air force academy

660
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,760
critical race theory did they did you

661
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:27,600
guys determine was critical race theory

662
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:29,600
being taught at the academy

663
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:33,360
um we don't think and

664
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:35,840
dr scott's been the best expert looking

665
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,039
at that he didn't see it

666
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:39,440
that had gone as far as west point had i

667
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:41,200
mean west point actually has a class and

668
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,400
a curriculum

669
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:44,400
but i was just talking with the recent

670
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:46,240
graduate the day before yesterday

671
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:49,600
guy that's like my own son and i was

672
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:50,880
asking him

673
00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:53,200
you know he he had looked at the video

674
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:54,880
back in july

675
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:56,960
and i asked him what his thought was he

676
00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:58,000
said john b

677
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:01,840
i couldn't even finish it and so i said

678
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:04,000
when i called him the other day have you

679
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:06,400
gone back and looked at that video more

680
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:09,520
and do you have any more input he says

681
00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:11,840
you know i can see the four guys i mean

682
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:13,919
it'd bring four guys up to our little

683
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:16,000
ski cabin and we'd ski together he named

684
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,799
him off

685
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:18,400
so they all think it's ridiculous my

686
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:20,000
three roommates here

687
00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:21,360
that he's rooming with now in the

688
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:23,279
airplane where he's based

689
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:24,640
they we all they all think it's

690
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,400
ridiculous i mean there's seven people

691
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:29,279
right there

692
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:32,240
but he said i i felt as i was going

693
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:32,960
through

694
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:36,880
the school 2014 2018 i felt

695
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:41,200
the culture shifting underneath my feet

696
00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:44,080
as an example so was it specifically

697
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,799
taught

698
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,720
he gave me an example of they brought a

699
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:48,240
female executive in

700
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:51,760
from facebook to speak to him

701
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:55,679
and her comments

702
00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:58,880
really made the males feel inferior

703
00:26:02,230 --> 00:26:01,279
and he gave me some of the things that

704
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:02,240
you know she said

705
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:05,200
so um i wonder if that was sheryl

706
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:06,559
sandberg

707
00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:08,320
i think it was i think it was not sure

708
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:09,919
but i think that name i think i've heard

709
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:12,080
that name this week that may have been

710
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,360
[Music]

711
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:16,000
that's just what we need is facebook

712
00:26:20,350 --> 00:26:17,760
executives

713
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:20,360
teaching our military

714
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:23,039
[Laughter]

715
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,480
times have changed huh so i mean aside

716
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:28,240
from the zoom meeting

717
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:30,960
dozens of phone calls general clark the

718
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:32,080
new superintendent

719
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:34,559
three weeks ago said he had over 300 uh

720
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:36,559
emails on this top

721
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:39,039
and to be honest some of them i i think

722
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:40,320
the majority maybe

723
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,080
are positive for the video uh and that's

724
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:46,799
now grown to be i guess the big

725
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:49,679
motivation for the group is

726
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:53,200
that's not right we need to have that

727
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,360
conversation

728
00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:58,320
being offended is not just a one-way

729
00:27:02,630 --> 00:26:59,840
street

730
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,640
why can't we together work on race

731
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:04,320
issues why do we have to

732
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,840
fight racism with race thank you again

733
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:10,080
to lieutenant general

734
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,640
rod bishop for appearing exclusively on

735
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,080
our show we certainly hope that this

736
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:15,760
story is going to get picked up

737
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:18,799
and be heard and seen

738
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,960
on a wider scale because it certainly

739
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,480
deserves that

740
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:24,000
thank you to our producer michael parker

741
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:26,000
thank you to our intern jake wall we'll

742
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:26,720
be back

743
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:28,799
next week with another episode of the

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thank you for listening to the truth

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746
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,200
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747
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